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Old 10-29-2008, 11:46 PM
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Greetings Brethren,
I had a dream the other night on Oct.24. I would like to share it because I am not not sure what it means.

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I was in my van driving along a road with my wife.

We began to cross a two lane bridge. ( One lane each direction )
The bridge was about a mile long.

As we entered the bridge, instantly there appeared on my lane of traffic about 100 to 200 policemen in a long row that followed the bridge.

They were along the entire bridge spaced apart only about 5 to 10 feet.

They were dressed in black Riot gear. The black vests, the padded suit, helmet with goggles, etc.

In their hands, they all had a shovel. Each of them was sprinkling a pile of wet asphalt in their small area where they were standing. Their little piles were about 2 to 3 feet wide and a few inches tall.

My wife suddenly screamed to me that I just passed the speed limit sign that said 19.

I tried to slow down but the van would not slow down to 19. I was maybe traveling about 25 to 30.

As I passed each policeman, they would look up at me but they kept pouring the asphalt.

I finally got to the end of the mile long bridge. At the end was a lady cop, waving and pointing at me to pull over. Right past her on the right was a temporary shack that the police had set up with a turn out.

I turned out and stopped at the shack and walked up to the window.

The lady cop in the window looked at my car and then her computer printed out a photo snapshot of the front of my car to show that I had been speeding.

I thought that my ticket was going to be real high and then the lady said, "That will be 21!"

"Twenty-one," I thought! So I looked in my wallet and took out some money, my wife also took money out of her purse.

We paid the lady twenty-one (21)

The weird thing was that I never heard, "Twenty-one dollars" just twenty-one.

So in conclusion, 19 and 21 were two numbers in this dream. I don't know what this means. But even right now, this dream is very vivid in my memory.

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Any comments would be welcome.

God Bless, Nathan

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Old 10-30-2008, 03:45 AM
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Nathan - I believe this dream is multi-faceted - not just about numbers. I will ponder and pray about it because I believe there is deep meaning in it for you!

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Old 10-30-2008, 06:28 AM
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Now I am not saying this has anything to do with your dream but curiously I googled 1921.
In that year the Italian Communist Party was founded in Livorno, the International Working Union of Socialist Parties was formed in Vienna, the Portuguese Communist Party was founded, the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia was founded, the Communist Party of China was officially founded, the Spanish Communist Party was founded, Adolf Hitler became Führer of the Nazi Party & the assassination of German politician Matthias Erzberger caused the German government to declare martial law.

Hmmm .......
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Old 10-30-2008, 06:42 AM
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Isn't that interesting. That is a hmm.
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Old 10-30-2008, 09:15 AM
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Rory,
Excellent post. Yes, it is time to flee any organization called a "church" that is tied to governmental regulations. Many congregations are even registered as corporations. I see this as an abomination. They will be easy targets and will be the first ones to be pressured in to becoming a part of the government sponsored universal "church".

LoriT,
Thats quite a lot of socialism (comminism) for just one year!

I also found this:

The Council on Foreign Relations was founded in 1921 by Edward Mandell House, who had been the chief advisor of President Woodrow Wilson. Actually, he was more than just a prominent aide of the President; he dominated the President. He was referred to as Wilson’s "alter ego" (other self), and was credited for being the most powerful individual in the United States during the Wilson Administration from 1913 until 1921.

House was a Marxist whose goal was to socialize the United States. In 1912, House wrote the book "Philip Dru: Administrator" in which he stated that he was working for "Socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx." In this book, House laid out a plan for the conquest of America, telling how both the Democratic and Republican Parties would be controlled, and be used as instruments in the creation of a socialistic government. And he asked for the establishment of a state-controlled central bank, which were both proposed in "The Communist Manifesto". And it was in 1913, during the very first year of the House-dominated Wilson Administration, that both of these proposals became law. The Federal Reserve Act was passed, which brought into power a private central bank to create the money of the United States, taking this power away from the united States Congress. And the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution, the graduated income tax as proposed by Karl Marx, was also ratified.
http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/cfr.html
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Exclamation The Meaning of Numbers

The Meaning of Numbers
http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.o.../appendixE.cfm

19. Faith


21. Trouble, Distress

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The law that was posted was that you were to travel at the speed of "faith."


the result of your disobedience resulted in "trouble, distress."


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only you and the holy spirit know the actual interpritation. All others can only be a confirmation of what the spirit is saying to you.

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The law that was posted was that you were to travel at the speed of "faith."


the result of your disobedience resulted in "trouble, distress."


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????????????????????????????

only you and the holy spirit know the actual interpritation. All others can only be a confirmation of what the spirit is saying to you.

notadoc
Not A Doc - you are onto something here. There is something that SEERS go through when they see things, at least I do. I end up walking years ahead of myself and have often reaped havoc because I was "casting the Pearls the Lord gave me to swines."

Nathan - I belive the police in this dream represent PROTECTION! It is strange that most of them were not even interested in making you obey the law - they could have cared less about how breaking the law could cause harm to you or someone else (speed limits are set to protect us and the public in the natural realm). Police are enforcers of the law, but these cops were not enforcing anything - they were just doing a job that policmen normally would not do - this job would be for a road crew.

It is also important that your wife "yelled" to you about the speed limit. It is good that you always run things by her - she is a safety net for you just as you are one for her. She will see things that you do not see and you will see things that she does not see.

The one cop that finally stopped you was a lady cop. She enforced the law. I bet the Lord is going to have women rise up and intercede for you to not ever move ahead of the Lord's timing. It is a difficult place to walk when we KNOW things are about to happen. However, our KNOWING is not always the Lord's timing. I think Watchmen are SEERS and I think they tend to see in the future - sometimes so much so that they never see the things they were given by the Lord come to pass. Look at all the years Christ was prophesied about in the Bible and how many who saw this actually got to see Him manifested on this earth?

The other policemen who were not doing their job are probably those who find reason to point the finger - but not pray. I have always beleived that the ONLY way the enemy can accuse us before the Throne of God is through the mouths of the Saints. We will either be found by the Father interceding or gossiping - it is our choice.

With someone who has a call like you it is necessary to be covered by intercession or you and your family will be slaughtered. You are lacking prayer coverage and this is evident in your dream because when you tried to slow the van down you couldn't - it was not that you did not want to obey - it was that you couldn't obey even when you tried.

So Father I just want to thank you for our brother and sister and their children and I ask that You protect them. Father I thank you for Nathan's willingness to speak Your words and obey you no matter what the cost. Father I thank you for Nathan's zeal and I ask that you salt that zeal with GREAT GRACE to ALWAYS be walking in YOUR PERFECT TIMING! Father I ask that you lift any burdens off of Nathan that you have not specifically ask him to carry and I ask that you totally yoke him with the Burden of Christ. In other words Father - make this EASY for Nathan because he wants to obey you - this is his heart. Father thank you for Nathan and Donna - thank you that they love you deeply and only want to please you. Protect them Father and raise up intercessors from within and outside of this forum to pray for them without ceasing.

In the Mighty Name of Jesus I thank you Father!

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My 2 cents; the 19th chapter of rev. is the last chapter before the millinium. the 21st verse is the end of the unsaved.
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Blessings Nathan,

I've never really gotten into interpreting dreams, and have been kind of waiting for someone else to come up with a full interpretation. But during the interim it seems as if the Lord has given me some insight that may or may not be accurate. I've always believed with regards to any type of guidance, that the Holy Spirit will give the individual the interpretation first, and those that are doing the interpretation are mainly giving a confirmation. Now the individual who had the initial dream may be unable to verbalize the meaning until the interpretation is revealed.

So, here's my stab at it.
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I was in my van driving along a road with my wife.

The message is for both you and Donna with regards to your Christian walk/Ministry. Nathan is in the driver's seat with Donna as a passenger.


We began to cross a two lane bridge. ( One lane each direction )
You are entering a transition in your walk/Ministry . A bridge is a shortcut or a passage from one location or state of being, to another. You have the ability to return the way you came (two lane) , you are in the driver seat.

The bridge was about a mile long.

A mile-long bridge is a very long bridge. This is a long transition.

As we entered the bridge, instantly there appeared on my lane of traffic about 100 to 200 policemen in a long row that followed the bridge.

Policemen represent the law.

They were along the entire bridge spaced apart only about 5 to 10 feet.
The Lane that you are traveling in parallels or is lined by the Law.

They were dressed in black Riot gear. The black vests, the padded suit, helmet with goggles, etc.

These "Law" enforcement officers are well protected. Black? Darkness?

In their hands, they all had a shovel. Each of them was sprinkling a pile of wet asphalt in their small area where they were standing. Their little piles were about 2 to 3 feet wide and a few inches tall.

The "Law" is reinforcing/building their foundation. No mention of weapons, but shovels to fortify their foundation.

My wife suddenly screamed to me that I just passed the speed limit sign that said 19.
If we accept the source that I found, 19 signifies Faith. Even though this bridge/transition is lined with a strong foundation in the Law, you are to be traveling this path by "Faith." As you travel by faith you are able to see/observe and witness the foundation of the Law. The Law isn't bothering or affecting your travel. (the law is a teacher).

I tried to slow down but the van would not slow down to 19. I was maybe traveling about 25 to 30.
I wonder who/what is controlling the van, if you tried to slow down. According to that source, 25 = Forgiveness of Sins; 30 = blood of Christ, dedication, spiritual maturity.


As I passed each policeman, they would look up at me but they kept pouring the asphalt.

I Wonder If the "Law" recognized that your van was covered/traveling by the "blood of Christ" and they ignored you because of forgiveness of sins. The Law continued to build its foundation.

I finally got to the end of the mile long bridge. At the end was a lady cop, waving and pointing at me to pull over. Right past her on the right was a temporary shack that the police had set up with a turn out.

I turned out and stopped at the shack and walked up to the window.

The lady cop in the window looked at my car and then her computer printed out a photo snapshot of the front of my car to show that I had been speeding.
You had freedom during your transition, but there is judgment at your new location/walk/Ministry. You were in the driver's seat, but now you come under a female authority.

I thought that my ticket was going to be real high and then the lady said, "That will be 21!"

According to that source, 21 = trouble , distress.

"Twenty-one," I thought! So I looked in my wallet and took out some money, my wife also took money out of her purse.

We paid the lady twenty-one (21)

The weird thing was that I never heard, "Twenty-one dollars" just twenty-one.

Did it end there, or did you drive off? I hope she didn't mean 21 years.

So in conclusion, 19 and 21 were two numbers in this dream. I don't know what this means. But even right now, this dream is very vivid in my memory.

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Any comments would be welcome.

God Bless, Nathan


Submitted for your discernment.

Shalom, notadoc
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