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Old 02-03-2010, 07:02 AM
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Since some have been quoting from the web site of "The Church of the great God", I think it would be good to take a look at that cult.

1st of all here is the history of their church from their own web site.

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History of the Church of the Great God


After Herbert W. Armstrong's death in January 1986, John Ritenbaugh and his family, among others, watched with growing concern as the administration of the Worldwide Church of God (WCG) changed one doctrine after another. Some of the changes were indeed just clarifications, but others, like healing, Passover, born again, the gospel, the nature of God and our ultimate hope were very significant. No one doctrinal change justified leaving the organization, but the cumulative effect of a multitude of changes and the trajectory of the WCG were worthy of notice.

These concerns gradually intensified and changed to alarm when, in November 1991, the "future aspects" of the gospel were relegated to third place in importance. This means many things, of course, but some of the most obvious doctrines affected were the return of Jesus Christ, the establishment of the Kingdom of God, the resurrection of the dead and the possible prophetic significance of news events. These were considered to be of lesser importance!

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When word of what had happened began to spread, however, many people began calling and asking whether John would pastor them. After considering their request and ultimately deciding to do so, he immediately established a number of policies he felt were essential to follow the pattern established by Herbert Armstrong when he left the Church of God, Seventh Day.


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Read more: http://cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/...#ixzz0eULCv44l
http://cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/About.history

We can see that this church is patterned after the Worldwide Church of God that Armstrong led. Most are aware that this church was a cult.

They do NOT teach that Jesus is God. They are sabbath keepers. And very legalistic.
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Old 02-03-2010, 07:05 AM
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Of course it is a cult.There is not an organized religion which is not a cult.

Every thing out of west cott hort is a cult also

Of course the earth being 20 billion yrs old is not a cult

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Of course it is a cult.There is not an organized religion which is not a cult.

Every thing out of west cott hort is a cult also

Of course the earth being 20 billion yrs old is not a cult

Bill
ARE YOU SAYING THAT WATCHSMAN CRY IS A CULT.

I have been in many churches that have error, but there are many that i would not call a cult.

A cult is a group that proclaims that they are the only way to truth or everlasting life.

A cult also does not believe that Jesus is God. The cult does not proclaim the only way to salvation, which is by the blood of our dear Lord, Jesus Christ.

Are you saying that no one in any organized church is not saved in spite of the fact that they may be trusting in the blood of the Lord Jesus.

Grace to all.
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WC is not organized religion.

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Lou quote:


Since some have been quoting from the web site of "The Church of the great God", I think it would be good to take a look at that cult.

This is a tool they use to further there agenda:


About BibleTools.org


BibleTools.org is dedicated to assisting individuals with their personal Bible study through providing reputable Bible resources and study tools.

This site is wholly owned and operated by Church of the Great God, Inc., a non-profit organization. The church, based in the Charlotte, North Carolina, area, is a Sabbath-keeping, non-Trinitarian organization of individuals in the United States, Canada, France, the Netherlands, southern Africa, Australia, Trinidad, the Philippines, and various other locations around the world. In addition to BibleTools.org, the church also supports the True Gospel, The Berean, the Sabbath, and Biblical Jesus as well as publishing Forerunner magazine, various booklets on Christian subjects, and audio sermon tapes.



Read more: http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuse...#ixzz0eV1wSzcY
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Cult - a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.

Some have no idea what a cult is.


Herbert Armstrong gets a double whammy score on the cult issue - he was a SDA member (whammy 1), but left and formed his own cult (Whammy 2). Of course, incorporating Mein Kampf (http://www.exitsupportnetwork.com/le...sed_Mein_Kampf) makes yet another whammy.

If whammies were strikes, this cult would have enough outs for an entire nine innings of baseball! Anything they say is suspect, and should be avoided at all costs.
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Lou quote:


Since some have been quoting from the web site of "The Church of the great God", I think it would be good to take a look at that cult.

This is a tool they use to further there agenda:


About BibleTools.org


BibleTools.org is dedicated to assisting individuals with their personal Bible study through providing reputable Bible resources and study tools.

This site is wholly owned and operated by Church of the Great God, Inc., a non-profit organization. The church, based in the Charlotte, North Carolina, area, is a Sabbath-keeping, non-Trinitarian organization of individuals in the United States, Canada, France, the Netherlands, southern Africa, Australia, Trinidad, the Philippines, and various other locations around the world. In addition to BibleTools.org, the church also supports the True Gospel, The Berean, the Sabbath, and Biblical Jesus as well as publishing Forerunner magazine, various booklets on Christian subjects, and audio sermon tapes.



Read more: http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuse...#ixzz0eV1wSzcY
Vickie,

Thank you for the input, that site is where the article for Matthew 13 interpretation was taken from, word for word.

Anything from their site is really dangerous.

Lou
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Cult - a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.

Some have no idea what a cult is.


Herbert Armstrong gets a double whammy score on the cult issue - he was a SDA member (whammy 1), but left and formed his own cult (Whammy 2). Of course, incorporating Mein Kampf (http://www.exitsupportnetwork.com/le...sed_Mein_Kampf) makes yet another whammy.

If whammies were strikes, this cult would have enough outs for an entire nine innings of baseball! Anything they say is suspect, and should be avoided at all costs.
Kevin,

You are sure correct about that. Armstrong was a very dangerous man, considering what he believed and taught. He was not far from being a Nazi. But his interpretation of Matthew 13 is very dangerous.

To actually say that THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN is full of sin. He came to this conclusion to be able to eliminate certain people from heaven. It ended up that group got larger and larger. In fact it included anyone who did not belong to his church.

Of course those here on the earth who are in this Kingdom of heaven still have a sinful flesh. But our flesh it NOT of the Kingdom of heaven. It is only our spirit which has been made perfect by the blood of the Lamb, that is in The Kingdom of heaven.

Thanks for your input. Kevin it seems you have some ability as a scholar. Any other information about the beliefs of this organization would be appreciated if you find more.

Grace to you - Lou Newton

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Herbert Armstrong gets a double whammy score on the cult issue - he was a SDA member (whammy 1), but left and formed his own cult (Whammy 2). Of course, incorporating Mein Kampf (http://www.exitsupportnetwork.com/le...sed_Mein_Kampf) makes yet another whammy.

If whammies were strikes, this cult would have enough outs for an entire nine innings of baseball! Anything they say is suspect, and should be avoided at all costs.
You have such a way with words!!

And you used illustrations that many of the cavemen meat-heads, like me, can relate to...sports!!!

God Bless,
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